M5 Clutch Change

Hot on the heals of our M3 Evo engine swap success, Ben, Robin and I decided to look for another challenge before the festive holidays were over. No need (nor time!) for anything as involved as an engine removal, but a challenge nevertheless. I’d been complaining about the M5’s clutch since I got it as it slips when upshifting under load. Over dinner on Friday a joke suggestion of trying to get the whole job, including sourcing parts, completed before Sunday rapidly became a plan we were itching to execute.

Come Saturday morning, Ben had successfully gained an MOT pass for the M3 and I woke the tractor from its freezing sleep to once again become support vehicle for the day.

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I headed off to Wembley to fetch a clutch kit from ECP. I’ve been there before, but I’ve forgotten what a rancid experience it is – both the journey and the final destination. The LUK clutch kit was reasonable value at ยฃ260, but there were times this morning when I was wondering how much more I’d have been willing to pay to get the part from a BMW garage! While I was doing this, Robin took the M5 to the workshop and got it up in the air.

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I think it’s important at this juncture to express that while we had done some research into the extent of the work involved in doing this job, we weren’t fully prepared. From this photo, taken at 12:41 Saturday lunchtime, we weren’t out of the workshop until 02:30 Sunday morning. As you know, we’re not inexperienced with the spanners, so here’s how it happened. Firstly, Ben ran away to play football, the big pansy! Then we tried to get the exhaust down.

For those who don’t know, the E39 M5 zorst is a single piece all the way from the join with the headers to the four tips. Here’s the usual view from the back of the car.

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(Yes, I know I’ve got rather worn non-matching rear tyres. I will get around to fixing this, but Rome wasn’t built in a day!)

The photo to the left was taken at 14:02 – an hour and a half after the car was lifted onto the axle stands. How on earth did this take us so long?! Well, it’s a big exhaust system – probably as big as Diane’s 106! We don’t know, but we’d guess it weighs in at over 100 kilos (the M5 exhaust, not Diane or her car!).

After some experimentation with pallet trucks we ended up using our two faithful trolley jacks and some wood to support the mass while we worked on it. One of the studs on the exhaust headers snapped so we took some time considering how the hell we’d put it back together (more on that later).

Unfastening the middle section and lamda sensor connectors was fairly easy. Releasing the rear certainly wasn’t! Somehow we got into a right old mess trying to work out which of the three bolts to remove from each of the six mounts, we struggled to clear the bumper, and the heat shields proved to be a royal pain in the arse!

With the exhaust finally out of the way there were more heatshields to remove, then the propshaft was detached from the rear of the gearbox.

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We got this far by around 15:00 – fairly good progress in the hour since the exhaust was removed (we British workmen need our tea breaks!). However, removing the gearbox proved to be the second major headache. Unusually, undoing the bolts that hold the bell to the block was all quite straight forward. Initially separating the two was okay, but after that they really didn’t want to come apart.

It’s all quite dodgy yanking a heavy gearbox rearwards when it’s supported on a trolley jack and you can only guess that the jack is supporting it on its centre of gravity – just think of the consequences if you get that wrong – you’re under there with it after all. Eventually much prying with a long bar got the ‘box off, but it wasn’t the kind of force I’d usually be happy using. I’m disappointed to reveal that including the removal of the bolts, removal of the gearbox took an hour and three quarters since the propshaft was removed; the below was taken at 16:47:

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Even once free, getting the gearbox down to ground past the exhaust headers was a real chore. Here’s a view of the old clutch:

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New clutch ready to go on:

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Building up the gearbox side of things:

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All nicely lithium greased. Next comes a comparison of the outgoing and incoming friction plates. At first I thought the outgoing one didn’t look too worn, until I noticed that like the replacement it once had grooves that had all but disappeared. Fortunately it wasn’t worn down to the rivets and there was no perceivable wear on the dual mass flywheel.

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We aligned the friction plate with the pressure plate using our lovely clutch alignment tool purchased just days ago to do the Evo.

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All nicely bolted up to the flywheel:

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Now, here’s when the day turned really sour. The above photo of the clutch on the flywheel was taken at 18:09. We then had two giant problems. We should have seen both of them coming really, because like any DIY mechanics we’re extremely familiar with the mantra “refitting is the reverse of removal”. Removing the exhaust and removing the gearbox were both horrible jobs – therefore the refitting of both was no better.

We could get the gearbox input shaft through the splines on the friction disk easily, but we couldn’t locate it in the flywheel for toffee. The default reaction was to assume that we’d failed to align the clutch correctly, so after half an hour of precarious gearbox wobbling on top of the trolley jack, we lowered it again past the exhaust headers, removed the clutch from the flywheel, realigned it and once again attempted reassembly. No better at all. Eventually I concluded that moving the gearbox’s input shaft within the flywheel bearing was the trouble we’d had removing the gearbox, so we needed to winch it back in. Robin agreed and constructed an ingenious winching mechanism from some spare nuts and bolts we had.

Eventually it was in, so I turned my attention to the snapped exhaust stud on the headers. I wanted to angle-grind it off and drill it out. Was there an angle grinder in the workshop? No. Had I left mine at home? Yes. Out came the junior hacksaw.

With about 1 inch of blade movement available, 15 minutes and a set of knuckles later I’d sawn the bolt off. Half an hour later I’d bluntened three drills bits, snapped another and got about half way through what has to be the toughest material known to man! Yet the damn thing had snapped on us earlier!

I can’t convey how unpleasant it is to have a really sore back and shoulders from a week of car mechanics, to be lying again on your back on metal drillings, loads of crap in your eyes (safety goggles still seem to permit dirt in!), drilling relentlessly wondering if you’ll ever get your exhaust on again. Eventually I got the bolt out – fortunately we had some replacements in our BMW stock bin. When I say eventually I mean it – from fitting the new clutch for the first time at just gone 6pm, by the time we’d got the gearbox back on and I’d drilled out the bolts to take the photos below, it was 23:14.

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Those five hours were the darkest of our day by far. It wasn’t even plain sailing from that point on – finishing up from this stage took another 3 hours! This delay was partially due to us both being incredibly knackered, but also the rear mounts were a complete arsehole – maybe Robin will comment on this later as he fought, and eventually won, that battle.

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By the end of this we were thoroughly knackered, but it’s a results based business and I’m delighted to say that the results are excellent. The new clutch is lovely and light, with a nice low bite point, and it grips brilliantly – the car is transformed! Makes it all worthwhile, despite the expressions on our faces at 2:15 in the morning!

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21 comments so far

  1. Neil.D on January 4th, 2009 09:48

    Neil,

    Looks a truly vile job. Excellent perseverance though.
    Any idea how long a dealer/specialist would take for this type of thing?
    Seems a massive job for something that needs doing with such regularity.

    Neil.D

  2. Neil Mukerji on January 4th, 2009 13:58

    Hi Neil,

    I think a specialist takes almost a day on it. I’d also imagine that for health and safety reasons at the very least, two men are required for some stages. It is quite a task, but now that we know what we’re doing I can imagine Robin and I doing it again in 8 hours – not that I want to! That said, the propshaft centre bearing looked a bit manky so I’ve ordered a replacement that’ll need fitting at some stage which means the exhaust will have to come off again soon, but at least the gearbox can stay put!

  3. jon on January 4th, 2009 15:37

    hi lads, this is a 3 hour job,by doing it on the floor you have given yourselves a nightmare!! well done for getting there in the end though,with a ramp it is a piece of cake.

  4. Neil Mukerji on January 4th, 2009 16:40

    Indeed Jon – access to a ramp would have been a major advantage, but we were just pleased not to be doing the work outside in freezing temperatures in the dark on a gravel driveway! I’d love to see the job done in three hours – I can only imagine that being the case if you know exactly what you’re doing and everything goes to plan. My car’s eight years old and has done 116,000 miles – so there are going to be issues such as the brittle exhaust stud. Now that we know how to remove and refit the exhaust, and that all the nuts and bolts have been recently undone, I could see us doing it somewhere near 6 hours without a ramp.

  5. Robin on January 4th, 2009 16:33

    Best get some spare downpipe bolts in for then…

  6. Jason on January 4th, 2009 16:44

    Believe it or not the book time on this is 5 or 5.5 hours.

  7. Neil Mukerji on January 4th, 2009 16:46

    Hi Jason – 5 hours on a ramp with ample spare bolts and brackets available sounds about right. :)

  8. Earth on January 4th, 2009 17:01

    The clutch is engaged when you pull back on the throttle. Earth

  9. Paul Stewart on January 4th, 2009 17:02

    Have you phoned and found out what the local BMW dealer would have charged for this ?

  10. Neil Mukerji on January 4th, 2009 19:06

    Hi Paul – dealers vary, but I believe it turns out around the ยฃ1,000 mark.

  11. jon on January 4th, 2009 17:37

    mine is the same age and has 90k on it,did my clutch 6 months ago,myself and a friend that is,nothing broke,getting the box to slide home was a ballache without a transmission jack, but still only took 10 15 mins of wiggling,easy job otherwise.i am aware of the book time and i can tell you that 3 hours is plenty of time.

  12. David Kingston on January 4th, 2009 18:48

    Hi Neil

    Wow!, well done on the second major Christmas job!

    What’s happening over Easter?

    David Kingston

  13. Neil Mukerji on January 4th, 2009 19:06

    Hi David,

    Easter’s far too far away to speculate – who knows what’ll go wrong between now and then!

    Cheers,

    Neil.

  14. Paul Stewart on January 4th, 2009 21:15

    Wish i had a car ready for Easter, you guys are one mission after another. Just read the engine swap. Are you having a weekend off ?

  15. Neil.D on January 6th, 2009 13:44

    You need to get yourself some aftermarket pipes for next time you have to take it all off again then…
    Subject to the credit crunch that is!

    Neil

  16. Neil Mukerji on January 6th, 2009 15:29

    Ah, the exhaust is way down the list behind prop centre bearing, diff leaks, rear tyres etc! Also, I quite like the tone of the standard setup and have had a bad experience with an aftermarket effort in the past on an E30 M3. Is there a system you’d recommend?

  17. Neil.D on January 6th, 2009 19:10

    I know what you mean, the subtle, understated noise does have a certain appeal. I just find it really lacks volume at the top end. I only really like the Milltek sound although it is quite an expensive one. About ยฃ850 after you have negotiated a discount. There are some of my videos of one on YouTube.
    Hayward Scott are cheapest although way too loud for me. I would only want to raise the volume a touch.
    What was wrong with your E30 one?

    Here are my Milltek vids. Not my car mind.

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=5Q4INrwvMu8&feature=channel_page

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=CCL4FWxGAl0&feature=channel_page

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=OoCn8MZvXHc&feature=channel

  18. Neil Mukerji on January 6th, 2009 19:18

    I had a custom system fitted courtesy of BMW Car Magazine – details here: http://mukerji.co.uk/2007/06/19/exhaust-woes/

    As it was gratis I was quite polite about it, but despite appearances ultimately it was just too boomy and was a significant contributing factor to my getting rid of the car…

  19. ashley on August 16th, 2009 21:44

    im having mine done now. car is 9 years old with 90,000 but had new engine at 50,000.

    for a new clutch and fly wheel bmw are charging me ยฃ1900 inc vat. sound about right?

    it has an ac schnitzer short shift gear box, i wonder if its that what burned the clutch out.

  20. Neil Mukerji on August 16th, 2009 21:50

    Hi Ashley,

    Well, it sounds like a lot, which is why I was willing to attack this myself. I thought typical quotes were closer to a grand even with a new flywheel?

    I can’t see how a short shift kit would decrease clutch life – I imagine it’s more the way the car is driven and how well aligned the clutch is.

    I bet it’ll feel good with new parts though – good luck!

    :)

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